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substantive policy change. let's not go crazy. paul ryan and the young guns could lead a panel called 40 is the new 18 about how we could lift the voting age from 18 to 40. problem solved. i got lots of great ideas. if you invited me to come, i would be delighted to share them with you. i would love to be there. sa while i'm joking, they are totally serious. rather than change their message and adjust to the changing demographics, the republican party has apparently decided their best bet is to rig the electoral game. to paraphrase "the gamble qugame all losers they yell deal the cards again. let's not let them. that does it for us. martin bashir, it is all yours. >> i agree entirely. it's thursday, january 17th, and the president's first task is to keep america's children safe, so who could possibly disagree with that. >> there will be pundits and politicians and special interest lobbyists publicly warning of the tyrannical all-out assault on liberty. >> is there now an obligation to ban motorcycles, bicycles, knives, et cetera? >> i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex

programs, social security, medicare, medicaid. but directly rebuking paul ryan and the 47% comment that got mitt romney in trouble. there may have been high arching philosophical tones but there were also those tones. >> are you embracing the 47% comment? >> no, no, i wouldn't say, i don't know if it is fair to say it wasn't partisan at all. >> this was not a speech where he stood up and said my mission is to leave office like a ronald reagan, being the president who turned around an economy, restored the confidence of a nation in its place in the world. no. he turned inward. and he said my mission here is to pick up the legacy of martin luther king and expand it as i think you've noted. that's not something he needs to work with republicans in congress for. it is something he doesn't need money for, by the way. it is, you're right, a moral agenda. but it is a very left of center argument that he made today about government. and republicans are going to go after him on that. this was a warrior president today. >> there was a more aggressive tone, you might say. let's play another m

have been more pointed if he turned to paul ryan and said that line directly to him. do you think he was sending a message across the bell? >> i hope he's sending a message. a lot of progressives look at that and say wait a second, is that the same president who was willing to support the change in social security, or is he going to stand firm. the rhetoric sounds good but how does the president act? what are the offers in negotiation on the table coming. >> john: george, we have 30 second before a break but mr. obama managed to slap down the comment that 47% of the country is made of a moochers? >> i think did he. he wants to remind people what this election was really about which was 30,000 feet up was about the romney view of takers, and the view of the strong social safety net. he doesn't want to get up and say romney said silly things about binders full of women. he wanted to drive home what the message of the election was really about. >> cenk: david shuster, i thank you for your time and brilliance this evening. and mr. zornick applies stay with us. current tv presents the

song written about you in that regard. >> glory days. >> hal: by the way in shocking news -- paul ryan hated obama's speech. he accused the president of using a strawman argument. >> the president is a proud and competent liberal progressive. he invoked the constitution of the declaration at times which are something that everybody likes to hear, especially conservatives. but he invoked them as a means to sort of legitimize the agenda he has going forward which was you know, fairly partisan. very ideology for sure. and you know, it doesn't surprise me he did that because he's basically saying i'm a govern and i'm going to govern as a liberal and i won. >> exactly. your point is? >> he ran as a liberal. he won as a liberal. >> liberals wouldn't say he ran as a liberal. they wouldn't say that at all. >> nor would they say the speech was overtly liberal. there are two people involved in a communication exchange. the person speaking and the person listening and both play a part in the conversation. and it should some as no surprise that paul ryan hears what he wants to hear. and his former would

left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> and for those who need a quick campaign 2012 refresher, it was quite obvious to whom that phrase, a nation of takers, was directed at. >> we can become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. more takers than makers in society. takers versus makers in america. >> could have been listening to ayn rand then. joining us is democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. >> good to be back with you. >> congratulations on a new congress. in an interview today paul ryan said those comments of his had nothing whatsoever to do with medicare and socia

paul ryan as anyone could be. ayn rand's philosophy, divide the people between takers and makers, and the president was basically saying we are not takers as a nation. >> that's right. as a matter of fact, he said by helping those who are down and out or in the lower income, we actually strengthen our society, and he's right. and i got to tell you, martin, as i sat there as the son of two former sharecroppers who plowed the land where their foreparents had been slaves and now to sit in the congress of the united states of america, i could relate to that. and i hope and i think what the president is saying is that for -- and he even mentioned a little girl who might be going through some difficulty, may not have some money -- >> growing up in deep poverty. >> but to know she has a chance to be somebody. i could really relate to that. as a matter of fact, it gave me chills and i don't usually get chills. >> there you go, chris. did you get any chills, chris? sorry, chris. congressman cummings was just saying that when the president referred to a little girl growing up in abject pov

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paul ryan claimed to have the solution to our debt ceiling impasse. he calls it a short-term debt limit extension. you may know it better as kicking the can down the road. which reminds me, there was someone just a few months ago who was famously against that kind of a deal. who was it? >> kick the can. kick the can. kick the can. >> right, of course. that's who it was. joining us is jonathan alter and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. john, we've seen speaker boehner's power getting weaker and weaker. is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wait until the election. don't do this deal. so this is more of the same fr

ceiling worked because that might not have been done last time. and paul ryan has the sort of, these are not the androids you're looking for, this will allow it to be your principle -- they just convince them -- over the course of a couple of days that they will have three pivot points, they will be able to say the onus is on the president to pass the budget. the first time they were able to look reasonable since 2009. they brought them around on it. they're asking for a nearly clean extension. i was talking to a john boehner spokesperson after this was presented and we were asking, didn't the boehner rule say we need cuts for every dollar of debt limit increase? he said well, the boehner rule is cuts versus reform. they're trying to sell that is not backing away from what they did before, but it kind of -- kind of is. >> it does seem like it kind of is, but going three months into the future, let's say you get the budgets passed. you have two other moments for fiscal showdown, you have the spending sequester, cuts to defense and then the spending programs. you have continuing resolu

, congressman paul ryan says the republicans are putting a temporary debt ceiling extension on the table. but if they don't take strong measures on the spending sequester and other budget cuts, they're going to be in danger of being out of office and losing the house in 2014. >>> now, president obama, many of our leaders never seem to talk about the real root causes for crime, economic failure and violence. i'm talking about the breakdown of families. talking about the absence of faith-based moral teachings in school. and the shrinking number of people even attending religious services. can we prevent future tragedies if we focus more on family values and faith? here now to help us with this, father george william rutler the church of our savior in new york. and the rabbi shmoley, author of "the broken american man and how to fix it." rabbi, let me begin with you. most of the mass murders and horrible events are committed by men or young boys. >> that is absolutely right. >> and i want to go there because that leads me to family breakup and that there are no fathers and there are no exam

thoughts on this? we've seen paul ryan, marco rubio extend a hand to president obama so to speak and suggest they are ready to talk about immigration reform. what's the biggest hurdle here? >> well, i think the biggest hurdle in the end is going to be politics, of course, but the issue of citizenship. what marco rubio outlined this week and last weekend is very close to what president obama talked about in 2011. and so i think that will provide some cover for other republicans. when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had before only supported very small steps in the immigration reform debate, a series of small bills. he did not want a big sweeping

. between now and april when paul ryan unveils his budget. you are boeing going to see hig for his cuts. they want him to take the lead when it comes to reform. >> you heard president obama yesterday. i dare say he does not want spending caughts and i dare say he would be happy to see in reverses in government spending. so that does not jive with what the house is doing. >> that is a fair point. some critics say inside of the house conference there is a real fight. they want to take these bold stances on the ten year balanced budget so they can get some leverage to fund the government when it comes up for a vote in a couple of week. >> no, i think they are doing the lord's work. thank you very much. we have a couple of special guests to tell us more. democrat from vermont, shawn duffy, republican from wisconsin. to both of you gentlemen friends of this show i wish you a happy new year. mr. boehner attached a bublg et to this. >> there are no specific cuts. where in medicare or the pentagon are they going to cut? they have to specify that before you can have a serious conversation. i don

, they started -- the republicans -- taking shots. let me show you where respective paul ryan responded to the president's takers comment at the inaugural address. >> no one is suggesting that our earned entitlements like payroll taxes for medicare and social security are putting u yo in a taker category. when the president does kind of a switcheroo like that, what he's trying to do is we are maligning these programs. so it's kind of a convenient twist of terms to try and shadow box a straw man in order to win by default. >> steve, interpret that for common people like me. because there's a lot of double talk there that i didn't hear him explain it that way when he said it originally. and it doesn't make much sense to me now that he has said this. >> no. and the entire message of the last few years of the republican party whether it's makers versus takers, whether it's the 47% theme. the 47% who supposedly don't pay taxes. they're talking about federal income tax. not state taxes, estate taxes, these sorts of things. that the republican party ran into this big problem in 2012 where that

-- and last year's vice presidential nominee-- paul ryan. >> here's the point, we have a law, it's called the budget act, it requires that congress passes a budget by april 15. all we're saying is, "congress, follow the law, do your work, budget. and the reason for this extension is so we can have the debate we need to have." >> ifill: as added incentive, the house bill says, if there is no budget, then lawmakers won't get paid. after it passed today by a bipartisan vote of 285 to 144, speaker boehner said he's optimistic that will happen. >> if both chambers have a budget. democrat budget from the senate, republican from the house now you've got competing visions, for how we address this problem. out of those competing visions, we're going to find some common ground. >> ifill: but house minority leader nancy pelosi said linking the budget to congressional pay was a ploy, and 11 house democrats ended up opposing it. >> this linkage is a gimmick, is a joke. it's not right. it's designed to put people on the spot and say either you get don't get paid and in order to get paid, for mem

hablado con erllos, con muchs republicanos tambiÉn, incluso los congresistas de miami y paul ryan, los principios importantes pero obviamente hay que entonces poner el papel y lÁpiz juntos y escribir los detalles de un plan y eso es lo que vamos hacer conjunto con otros legisladores a travÉs de un proceso transparente, para que el pÚblico pueda tener su opiniÓn escuchada sobre el tema >>> para cuÁndo piensa hacer esto? >>> bueno lo mÁs pronto posible, objeviamente esto es un tema difÍcil, la modernizaciÓn no es complicada pero en tÉrminos de los temas actuales sÍ es complicado, obviamente el tema de la seguridad es importante. asÍ que eso va a a tomar un tiempo no estamos hablando de muchos meses si no varias semanas. >>> senador muchas gracias por estar con nosotros >>> muchas gracias josÉ y para ver entrevista nuevamente vaya a telemundo.com/enfoque es importante que la comparta una ♪ ♪ ♪ [ locutora ] empieza el reto special k. pierde hasta seis libras en dos semanas con el cereal que te encanta... y muchísimo más. ¿qué ganarás cuando pierdas? ( ♪ mÚsica ♪

problem. all the way, he is smacking people around, smacking around paul ryan, by employing his own "takers rhetoric". >> we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, anyone of us in our time could face a sudden job loss, or illness, or a home sweat away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other, through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> that is such an important point about how these programs free us. you know, we don't all have our grandmothers sleeping in the home with us because they now have social security, medicare, that changed the dynamics of poverty among elderly. who used to be the most poverty-stricken segment of society. >> and it used to be the numbers, what are the long-term budget impacts of it. what i was struck by, to go off of paul ryan's premise, in 2008, we need to come together because we're all rational people and let's do it for the common good. now it wa

president gave a strong defense to entitlement. he alrejected the division the term by paul ryan with the makers and the takers. >> we do not believe that in this country, freedom is reserved for the lucky. or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, may face a job loss or a sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> rick, that was the first time i've ever heard anybody make that fasz nating defense of these safety net programs. wherein parents will risk anything. they'll spend all of their money as they make it on tuition bills for their kids, with the assumption of if worse comes to worse, i can make it on social security. >> yeah, that's right. and this was a -- you might say that this was an ideological speech in the best sense of that word. and the b

does not mean we're a nation of takers. i mean, that really was a slap to the paul ryans, the small-government republicans. >> directly. paul ryan has kind of made his bread and butter saying, americans, some are makers and some are takers. >> 47% who got republicans in trouble, who got mitt romney in trouble on the campaign. and again, you saw this other side of the president today, one that was doubling down on progressivism and saying i'm not going to be pushed around this time. this is where i stand. >> we're going to take a quick break. we anticipate seeing michelle obama, president obama. a lot of eyes will be on michelle obama, wonderic what chose rr wearing. a lot of american designers are glued to the television, waiting to see if one of their dresses will be worn by the first lady. it's apparently down to two. none of the designers have been informed all or not michelle obama has chosen her dress. as you see t they will be seeing it for the first time. it's going to have a big impact on their careers. wreel we'll talk about that. stay tuned. we'll be right back. just the r

described as reckless and irresponsible and unworkable. >> paul ryan, the powerful chairman of the house committee and former g.o.p. vice presidential nominee said all options clouding prioritization remain on the table. ryan suggest itig the divided government and gridlock if the long-term deal is achievable it will take time to negotiate it. failing that, toomey and ryan said it's the only available course. >> bret: is it tough to do? if you have the law in place is it tough for budget folks to implement it? >> very tough. no president wants to give up flexibility. president wants the white house back. they don't want the hands tied by congress if the shoe is on other foot. >> bret: thank you. >> some people brought you obamacare want to control what you hear about it on the news. up next, obamacare was intended to get more people on health insurance. is it already costing you money this or even your job in that's next. fficiently absorbedl continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow rel

the rise to the capital. a star-studded affair. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem. >> the ceremony was over there was a stream of pomp and circumstance waiting. >> from signing papers to officially nominate the new cabinet to lunch with congressional leaders. then, of course, the parade. the first family could make the way back to the white house in that grand bulletproof review stand. yet all of that could wait because leaving the west front of the capitol, the president went off script to take in the vista of the national mall. mr. obama seemed to be taking in the moment. overheard saying he would never quite see this view again. as the president is set to sell the agenda in the "state of the union" next month, it is worth noting that gallop is out -- gallup is out with approval rating for the third term and the third worst number since world war ii. only better than carter and ford. worth noting after the president it was reagan and clinton. two guys who had troubles in the second terms but also got a lot done. >> b

respect to paul ryan's budget. you know paul ryan had the courage to take on social security reform, medicaid reform and medicare reform. as my colleague just repeated, one of their talking points, that it decimated this group or the other, it balanced in 40 years. i want your viewers to let that soak in. paul ryan's budget balances in 40, four, zero, years. yet my colleagues on the other side of the aisle say that is draconian and mean-spirited. social security is easy to fix. medicare is easy to fix but not when you trot out stale talking points and you vouchers that will destroy medicare as we know it. if you want a fair conversation about it which everyone concedes privately on entitledment reform. when someone has the courage of paul ryan and get demagogued and show ads of pushing a senior citizen off a cliff makes you less likely to do it. tracy: for those of us at home listening to all this the word bipartisanship has become a dirty word down in d.c. i hope you find time to find it again and work through these things. congressman gowdy, congresswoman schakowsky, thank you bot

. chairman paul ryan, chairman of our budget committee, bright young leader for our country forth rightly brought this idea to our conference, has sold it. it's the right thing to do. we are trying to do here today the right thing, talking with the american people, letting people see that we're moving forward to avoid conflict and avoid problems. it was accomplished with this five-page bill, five-page bill which we will then have two committee chairmens. paul ryan representing the budget committee. dave camp. candice miller and the house administrator work through careful ideas that really are not difficult to get because it's a five-page bill. we think we're doing the right thing. we think we got the votes. we think it's going to provide this country and the senate and this administration us all working together the right thing. so if you want to oppose it i get that. i can understand the positions held. but that's -- but passing the bill will be a positive thing. it will offer working together relationships with the senate. it is supported and not opposed by the president, i think gives

. >> house budget committee chairman paul ryan says they are weighing the benefits of an extension as a way to get the senate and white house engaged in future conversations. president obama as warned that if congress doesn't raise the debt ceiling the economy could crash and there could be delays for social security checks and veterans benefits. >>> university of california leaders say tuition hikes can be avoided this fall if the system gets the funding increase proposed in governor brown's budget plan. the quarter billion-dollar increase is less than that what the uc system had hoped. but it's a turnaround from years of budget cuts. the extra funding is due in part to proposition 30, the tax measure approved by california voters in november. >>> 55,000 local students will have the same class plan for part of today lessons on digital media safety. commonsense media is teaming up with the san francisco unified school district for the program. it will cover such toppers as cyberbullying and who to trust online. >>> starting this week yelp will post san francisco's health department in

the handwriting on the wall. when you look at these bipartisan votes, you have paul ryan voting for higher taxes. you have both ryan and rubio voting for immigration reform now. and i think you're going to see enough votes in the center to raise the debt ceiling without any kind of -- chris: are they jumping shark on this? >> i think so. i think the public is certainly sick of it. and i also think the business community doesn't want to hear anything about shutting down the government. chris: you're the expert. i real me mean this. people advise me on making financial decisions. they think the economy looks pretty good. don't mess it up. >> it does look pretty good, as best we can tell. the one thing to remember is it's not just the debt ceiling. it's these automatic cuts that are scheduled to take place march 189 the debt ceiling isn't their only opportunity to try to get the president to agree to cuts. there are looming deadlines. so i think the republicans will get obama to agree to some cuts, even if we don't have a really economically damaging showdown. chris: how are we going t

mitt romney when he devoted convincingly but also paul ryan, house budget chairman, who he'll be dealing with and had made similar comments. what was interesting here was pushing climate change as the defining issue of the era. hard to see -- >> on the heels of sandy, the heels of last year's draught was one of the worst in our country's history going back to the dust bowl, you'd think there would be wind sailing in the right direction. >> that's right. he's putting something in the agenda that wasn't. we already had the pipeline to capitol hill so clogged. these three new fiscal cliffs coming up, gun control, energy infrastructure. he's putting this at the head of the line. immigration actually and even gun control got very little attention here. he mentioned newtown but only in passing. >> so do you think he held some stuff back for the state of the union? >> definitely. the state of the union will be more a blue print, a road map, but here he's talking for history. over the years this president has rightly been criticized for not telling his own narrative, for not putting out

years. >> the last time they passed a budget, the ipad had not been introduced. >> reporter: paul ryan will draft the republican budget, likely with deeper cuts than the one he offered last year. that's a carrot to get conservatives to go along, some still want to see cuts first. >> i will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless significant efforts are made to fix the underlying problem. >> reporter: senate democrats hint they will pass a budget, but not necessarily soon. >> we'll approach that when we need to. >> reporter: the white house says even though it's short-term, the president will sign it. >> the debt ceiling ought not to be a political football. >> reporter: this republican retreat with one last stand. if they can't compromise, lawmakers paychecks could take a hit. here's what we still don't know, even if they do pass that temporary extension, what about the budget? could america's credit still see a downgrade? mara? >> something tells me having their paychecks on the line might motivate them. >>> on capitol hill, secretary of state hillary clinton will appear before congress

budget the ipad hadn't been introduced. >> reporter: paul ryan will draft the budget with deeper cuts. that's a carrot to get conservatives to go along but some still want to see cuts first. >> will not vote to raise the debt ceiling unless significant efforts are made to fix the under lying problems. >> reporter: senate democrats hint theology pass a budget but not soon. >> approach that when we need to. >> reporter: the white house says even in short term the president will sign pinpoint >> the debt ceiling ought not to be a political football. >> reporter: this republican retreat with one last tanned if they can't compromise lawmakers' paychecks could take a hit. what's still not known is if this is temporary passing this budget and this extension of the debt limit. if it's temporary we could still see a credit downgrade. >> we hope that does not happen. tracie potts in washington, d.c., thanks you. >> jill kelley is peaking out for the first time after the scandal that forced petraeus to resign. they wrote an opinion piece in "the washington post" denying allegation against her sa

specifics are in the paul ryan plan? guest: they are. host: jeff is in florida. caller: hi. good morning, america. i look at problems and a simple level. use it the solutions solve more than one problem. when we have 45 million lost jobs, the budget goes up. when we have 3% unemployment, your budget goes down. the american people do not know they could add to their everyday life simple things and each time america works together as a team, they can knock off one day of that $4 billion a day that we're spending. everybody hang a sign -- "turn off hot water heater." "turned on hot water heater" in the morning. that will save every american family $30 a month. guest: that is common sense. i like common sense. part of what we get out of this is to grow our economy. we are americans. putting capital at risk and finding new ways to create goods and services that people wante. i introduced the mid-atlantic jobs act 2012. it opens up coastal virginia energy for energy exploration and harvesting. it would create 18,000 jobs. we're blessed with an abundance of natural resources in our country. we

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: yeah, paul ryan had a very bad day yesterday. because it was a reputation of all of those ideas about the social safety nets and -- yeah. the president again. >> obama: the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security. these things do not zap our initiatives. they strengthen us. [ cheers and applause ] >> obama: they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> stephanie: boo-yaw. >> what about support. >> stephanie: i have a serious and thoughtful plan. [ laughter ] >> can i sit at the big table? >> stephanie: we have to get serious about the safety nets. yeah, i would give anything to see what was in the thought bubble. >> yeah. bzzzzzzz. >> stephanie: yeah because that was a boo-yaw, because that was their whole argument. >> yeah. >> stephanie: we're moochers we're 47%. >> no wander mittens didn't show. that makes me feel bad about myself. i felt an emotion. what was that. [ mocking laughter ] >> normally my indifference is exactly the right height. [ mocking laughter ] >> stephanie: that i

up at ten years. there's big changes to the paul ryan budget plan to get the ten years. that will come on the medicare side. that will be a big, tough change on the house side. >> here in a moment. he an online question coming in why you referenced the private conversations you about en10--year balance. why haven't they been public that have come out? there's more to this. it's also that 974 number that is statute it continue to stay. this somewhat comes back to your question. relevance right now may be for those influence those with the power of leadership. when they look members like myself in the eyes. and say here is where this goes. we're going have the budget committee produce a ten year balance budget. we are going stand behind those dollar amounts in the sequestration legislation. we're going hold firm in many ways 90 dais it's going the ultimate test of the relevant sei with those we trust in the leadership positions. and i believe there would be hell to pay they squanderrered this. >> yes, sir? [inaudible] >>> we know and on everything until i persuaded to vote yes. [lau